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#69394 - 07/20/06 03:39 AM Re: Clothes
ironraven Offline
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And brother, they aren't kidding about nylon burns. I've got a scar that digs into the side of a finger from fusing paracord when I was young and stupid and didn't think it was really fused until it was bubbling. Nastiest stuff I've ever had land on me- close enough to napalm for my taste.
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#69395 - 07/20/06 03:49 AM Re: Clothes
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
Iron Raven; I got a used pair. Only wore them once to make shure they fit. As I understand,they insulate by the trapped air, your feet will stay warm, but you will swim in sweat. Considering the environment in them when their in use, hot and sweaty, I wouldn't be surprised if somthing( bacteria/fungi) wouldn't grow in them if they were not properly dried/ deconed after use. Maybe you should nuke them. Like I said, I've no personal experience living in them, (maybe its time) but from what I've been told, for cold wet nothings better. For cold dry mukluks. Thanks: Jim

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#69396 - 07/20/06 04:52 AM Re: Clothes
Lance_952 Offline
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Registered: 06/25/06
Posts: 106
Personaly I hate micky mouse boots. They are what I had to use when I was younger and cut wood with my Dad who felt the only time to cut wood was in the winter, and NEVER EVER did they keep my feet warm. After many a long day out cutting I thought I would get home to find my toes as black as the boot with frostbite. Thank god that never happened, but I would not take a pair if they were given to me

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#69398 - 07/20/06 05:32 AM Re: Clothes
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Edited by JohnN (07/20/06 05:34 AM)

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#69399 - 07/20/06 06:06 AM Re: Clothes
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
What are micky mouse boots?
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#69400 - 07/20/06 11:55 AM Re: Clothes
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Ah, better than cotton - SILK for undies, WOOL for socks. Lots of folks think wool is warm.. Lightweight wool will keep you nice and cool
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#69401 - 07/20/06 12:49 PM Re: Clothes
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
GENTS; Ok, if not MM boots, then what do you have/carry/stash for long term cold/ wet conditions? I don't know if you'd want to take your boots off and wade in the conditions I have in mind. Mors Kochanski says any rubber pak boot will do as long as you have room for 3 thick wool socks. I guess he'd know. Jim


Edited by aligator (07/20/06 01:27 PM)

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#69402 - 07/20/06 01:02 PM Re: Clothes
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
Re Micky Mouse AKA Bunny Boots: US Military ( NATO?) cold weather boots. HD rubber construction. Insulates by the principle of trapped warm air between the layers of rubber closest to your foot. Totally water proof and air tite. Most I've seen had air pressure relief valves ( high altitude, HALO/HAHO?) Two versions, black and white with the white version designed to be warmer, Hope this helps Jim

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#69403 - 07/20/06 01:22 PM Re: Clothes
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
Teacher; "clothing as environmental armor" The senario I envision is a situation that requires you to be shelterless at least initally and requires you to go with your EDC and on person stuff. If your structure was sound and secure and staying there was the best option, shure you'd stay. The thought I was trying to put forth, was that most people don't/ can't wear the clothes that would best serve as their primary shelter in a worst case senario, but that realisticly, they could expect that their clothing choices might have to fulfill that roll. In fact, I dont think its on most peoples radar. Thanks; JIm

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#69404 - 07/20/06 02:12 PM Re: Clothes
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Ah that sounds like a BAS (British Antarctic Survey) boot. Something simular is used by the Royal Marine's Arctic Warfare Cadre. They are really designed for us in very cold, dry conditions. For most enviroments you are better off with decent walking boots/shoes. Footwear is one area in which being prepared to pay top dollar for good, walk across Hell boots is good practice. Especially if your life depends on how far you can walk.
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